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A "Separate" Success

Eric Persons - After reading several articles about separate versus integrated special finance departments, I felt compelled to share with you our “separate” success story here at Asheville Dodge.

Eric Persons
Eric PersonsSpecial Finance Director
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September 1, 2006
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After reading several articles about separate versus integrated special finance departments, I felt compelled to share with you our “separate” success story here at Asheville Dodge. Asheville Dodge is in Asheville, N.C., population of about 80,000, with an additional 20,000 within a 50-mile radius. Being in the northwest corner of the state, close to the Tennessee-Georgia-South Carolina border, there is not much here except mountains and tourism.

The dealership, like many, went through some troubled times too. They had hired a special finance manager that eventually was placed behind bars for stealing. The dilemma in 2000 was what to do. The general sales manager quickly moved the department from the separate side of the fence to the “we’ll run it from the sales tower” side. This move provided limited production success. There was no other option available at the time, until I arrived on the scene in June 2000.

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Having worked special finance since 1992 and having been a branch finance manager for a nationwide finance company for over five years, I was able to present to the dealership a new perspective and production game plan for special finance. My plan was a special finance department as separate entity once more. As a result of a 15-minute walk with the dealer principal on the used car lot and a phone call from the management company, I was hired. Now it was time to get the job done.

So much for background. I feel there are three keys to success that have permitted us to be productive and profitable. Production is 70 units per month. Profitability is measured at $2,500 per copy. First, I had to have the complete backing of the dealer principal.

Support from the owner came in the form of advertising, purchasing the right vehicles and properly rewarding those who produced. Advertising is currently in the form of a 30-minute infomercial that is filmed weekly and played six times a week, mailing 2,500 direct mail pieces weekly, a quarter page ad in a weekly newspaper, radio spots and daily newspaper ads. The bottom line here is you have to spend money to make money.

Secondly, I had to have input toward appraising and purchasing used vehicle inventory. Lastly, I had to have the trust and support of the sales staff. They, in particular, could make or break this venture. Those purchasing the inventory listened to us when we suggested the type of vehicles we needed to stock for our special finance endeavors. Most owners and/or auction buyers purchase/appraise vehicles using the Black Book. This is certainly a good depiction as to the value of a vehicle BUT in the world of special finance should only be used as a guide. Since most all finance companies lend according to NADA, it was imperative to insure that vehicles being appraised/purchased be within certain NADA trade-in parameters. The one most critical parameter is that the dollar amount fall about $1,000 below base trade-in value if the vehicle has a value less than $14,000. Anything over $14,000 could be at trade-in value. This allows room for pack, shop and the ability to make the aforementioned $2,500 per copy since most finance companies advances 115 percent to 125 percent of trade-in. Finance companies have production quotas too and are only too happy to give up an extra half-point to one-point of rate to secure the deal as well as shaving off $100 to $250 of some acquisition fee. The key is to pick up the phone and capitalize on that relationship you should have developed since day one. I have the luxury to do this because I have an assistant that does all the contracting and stip chasing. Do not accept lender callbacks as gold.

Lastly, the support of the sales staff is imperative. They need to believe you can get the job done and at the same time generate the aforementioned $2,500 per copy so that they get paid. We set up a pay plan as follows:

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1.  The salesperson gets the entire stroke towards any and all production quotas.

This supports his/her drive towards a “fast start” bonus, half way through the month bonus, towards a “fast finish” and/or salesperson of the month bonus.

2.   The sales person splits the 30 percent commission with the special finance manager.

In order to support this, you must have a productive range of finance companies that supports a 350 beacon as well as a 650. We have that here.

For those who have not been successful with a SF department (either separate or integrated), might I suggest to you to look at your hiring practices, inventory and sales department attitude. Perhaps it is time to get a new GSM, buy cheaper (smaller payment) vehicles and adjust the attitude of your sales staff. It all starts from the top. Look within.

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